Charvaak Faith
Now the form
of Charvaak faith is described-
‘There no
omniscient, dharma-adhrama moksha, there
are no fruits of punya-pap, there is no Parlok – what all is visible to senses,
the Lok is that much’- thus tells the Charvaak.
There we
ask them- The omniscient is not there in
this kaal and kshetra or always-everywhere? In this kaal-kshetra, we too
do not accept but he does not exist in all kaal-kshetra- how this knowledge was
attained without being omniscient? ‘The one who knows all kaal-kshetra, he only
is omniscient’ and if you do not know then how do you oppose it?
There,
Dharma-Adharma are famous in the Lok- if they are imaginary then how are they so famous in all the people? And the
manifestations in dharma-adharma form are seen, with that only they are seen to
be sukhi-dukhi in present; how do we reject it? The attainment of Moksha is
inferred- Anger etc. flaws are less in someone and more in someone else;
hence it can be known that someone would have absence of these also. And gyan
etc, gunas are seen to be less or more for someone; hence it can be known that for someone it would be complete.
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Thus for whom all the flaws are
eliminated and the gunas are attained, that only is Moksha state.
There the
result of punya-pap is also seen- Someone with efforts also remains poor, someone has wealth
by itself. Someone remains ill in spite
of efforts of body, someone without
efforts remains healthy. These are directly seen, there should be some reason for it? Hence the
reason only is punya-pap. And the Parlok
is also felt by Pratyaksha-Anumaan – Vyantar etc. are seen to be
saying that ‘ I was so, now I am Deva’
Then you
shall say- ‘ this is
wind only’.
There we call as Atma in which ‘ I am’
etc. form Chetana form bhavas are seen to exist; you call that as ‘wind’
; but wind is blocked by wall etc. ; soul is not seen to be blocked upon death
also ; how can we call it wind?
You call the Lok to be whatever is visible by
senses but you cannot
see with senses the distant places of
few Yojans and slightest past-future kaal –
kshetra related substances , where as traditionally we hear of distant
countries and things pertaining to different kaals , hence their knowledge, you
do not have ; then how do you say that Lok is this much only?
In
Charvaak Faith they tell- With conjunction of earth, fire, water, wind, sky the Chetana is
produced, whereas upon death the earth etc. remain here; the conscious
substance has gone and become Vyantar
etc.- these are seen directly different. And in one body the earth etc. also
appear to be different ; where as the Chetana appears to be same. If the
Chetana is upon basis of earth etc. then in flesh, blood, breath etc. different
Chetana should be there. With cutting of hand etc. just as the varna etc. remain with
it ; the same way Chetana also stays. And ego,
buddhi are present in Chetana but earth etc. form body remained here
only, then in vyantar etc. paryaya the oneness with previous paryaya is seen ,
how is that possible? And the secret information of previous paryaya are
revealed; hence that knowledge was shared with whom? The one who had the knowledge , that only is ‘Atma’.
In
Charvaak faith –
eating, drinking, enjoyments, etc. preachment of promiscuity are given but the
world itself manifests in such form. There by creating shastras etc. what
preachment of being good is given? You will say – For renouncing
Tapa, sheel, Sanyam etc. preachment was
given , but in these Tapa etc.
activities with reduction of Kashaya the restlessness reduces; hence he becomes
happy here itself and fame etc. is attained, but by renouncing these what
benefits you cause?
By telling
tales favourable to jivas obsessed with lust you are not afraid to harm
yourself and others; for sensory enjoyments with promiscuity you give such
false logic.
In this the Charvaak faith was refuted.
Other faiths rebuttal : Conclusion
In the same
way there are several other faiths, which by creating false logic, have been
revealed by papi jivas obsessed with sensory enjoyments, with their shraddhan
the jivas get harmed.
And one Jina faith is there which propagates truth , it has been sermonized by
omniscient Veetrag Deva; with his shraddha etc. only the Jivas get benefited- in such Jina faith the Jivas etc.
tattvas have been narrated; Pratyaksh-Paroksh two Pramans have been told;
omniscient -Veetrag Arahant Deva is there; without internal-external
possessions the Nirgranth Guru is there.
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Their description would be written
further in this Granth , know from there.
Here
someone says- You
have raga-dwesha ; hence by negating the other faiths , you try to establish
your own faith.
To him it
is told- In
description of true thing there is no raga-dwesha. If with some objective , the
narration is otherwise, then it gets to be called raga-dwesha.
Then he
says – If
raga-dwesha are not there then why do you tell other faiths as bad and Jain
faith as good? With equanimity know all of them as equal ; why do you take
sides?
To him we
say- We call bad as
bad, good as good; what is raga-dwesha there? And knowing good-bad as equal is
agyan bhava; not equanimity.
Then he
says- The objective
of all faiths is same only; hence all should be known as equal.
To him we
say- If objective is
same then why should there be different faiths? In one faith with one objective, the addressal is in different
ways, who calls it different faith? But there the objectives also are
different, that is demonstrated-
Comparison of other faiths
with Jain faith
In Jain faith the objective is to nourish the
Veetrag bhava; hence in stories, description of Lok etc., conduct and in Tattvas
, everywhere the detachment only has been supported.
Whereas in
other faiths the bhava with raga have only been supported since the imaginary
creations are carried out by passionate jivas only and with different types of
arguments they support the kashaya bhavas only.
For ex. –
Adwait Bramhvadi , accepting all as Bramh; Samkhya followers, believing all
deeds to be that of Prakriti and believing self to be Shuddha non-karta; Shiva
followers believing the siddhi from knowledge of tattva only; Mimamsak
believing Kashaya tainted conduct as dharma; bauddha believing all to be
momentary; charvaak without accepting ParLok etc.; support promiscuity of
sensory enjoyments form Kashaya activities only.
Although in
some places they also talk of reducing Kashaya but with that deceit they
support some other Kashaya. For ex.- leaving house activities, the bhajan of
Parameshwara was carried out, but the form of Parameshwara is established as
Saragi and with that support they nourish their own sensory subjects and
Kashaya.
Whereas in Jain Dharma ‘ The form of
Deva-Guru-Dharma etc.’ is declared as Veetrag only and only Veetragata is
nurtured- this is obvious.
What can
we say? The follower
of other faith Bhartrihari has told thus in ‘detachment scenario’-
Amongst Ragi
people one Mahadeva is glorious, who is holding his favourite Parvati in half
the body and amongst
Veetragis Jina Deva is glorious , compared to him no one is better in
renouncing the company of women. The remaining people have been made unconscious
by the snakes venom form arrows of
Kamdeva, who cannot properly enjoy the subjects due to irony of lust , nor can
they give it up.
In this
verse the MahaDeva has been called as prime amongst the Saragis and amongst
Veetragis JinaDeva is called as prime. When Sarag bhava and Veetrag bhava have
mutual opposition ; hence both cannot be good and only one of them is beneficial.
Hence Veetrag bhava only is beneficial ; with whose presence the restlessness is immediately
eliminated, he becomes venerable; which leads to ‘future benefit’ and
with Sarag bhava immediate restlessness is experienced, it is deplorable; which
causes ‘future harm’. Hence
the one which has veetrag bhava only as objective-such Jain faith only is
desirable. And where Sarag bhava only are the objective- such other
faiths are harmful; how can they be treated as equal?
Then he
says- This is true but
with criticism of other faith, the followers of that faith become unhappy,
opposition is generated; hence why should we criticise?
It is
told- If we
criticise with Kashaya and cause misery to others then we are Papi only but
with the shraddhan of other faith etc.
the wrong shraddhan of jivas get strengthened, which results in jiva
being unhappy in the world; hence with compassionate bhava the reality has been
narrated. Some one without reason becomes unhappy, and objects then what can we
do?
For example
by criticising liquor the wine maker becomes unhappy, with criticism of kusheel
prostitutes become unhappy and with the test of pure and mixed the cheats become
unhappy so what can we do?
In this way out of fear of Papis, if the dharma
preachment is not given then how jivas would be benefited? There is no such
preachment by which all can get comforted.
And it
generates opposition, the opposition happens by mutual arguments. If we do not fight then
they would be automatically subsided. We shall be getting the results of own
manifestations only.
There
someone says – With
wrong shraddhan of meaningful Jivas etc. tattvas, Mithya darshan etc. are
attained; with shraddhan of other faiths how will it result in Mithya darshan
etc. ?
Its
answer- In other
faiths with converse arguments, the form of Jivas etc. tattvas do not appear to be real – such means are resorted to, why so ?
If the form
of Jivas etc. Tattvas appear to be real then being Veetrag bhava only the
Mahant nature would be seen, but the Jiva who is not Veetragi and desires to be
Mahant, in spite of having Sarag bhava
have narrated it with imaginary arguments for establishing their own Mahant-ness.
Narrating
the Adwait Bramha etc., they establish the non real shraddhan of Jiva-Ajiva;
with support of promiscuity they establish non real shraddhan of Asrava-Samvar
etc.; and with Moksha having form with Kashaya and non conscious , they
establish non real shraddhan of Moksha. There the false nature of other faiths
has been revealed. If their falsehood is felt then interest in Tattva shraddhan
would arise and with its logic the delusion would not be generated.
In this
way the other faiths were narrated.
With quotations of scriptures
of other faiths , establishing the antiquity of Jain dharma and its expediency
Now by means
of proofs of the scriptures of other faiths itself the antiquity of Jain faith
and its expediency is demonstrated-
‘Large Yog
Vashishth’ is 36000 shlokas size granth, in its first “Vairagya treatise” in
the chapter of “ Ahankara Nishedh” , in the dialog between Vashishth and Ram it
is told-
Ram said – “
….”
In it Ramji has desired to be like Jina ; hence The
supremacy of Jinadeva compared to Ramji and his ancient nature was revealed.
In
‘Dakshinamurty Sahasra Naam’ it is said –
Shiva said –
“……”
Here the
name of Bhagwat was told to be ‘engaged in Jain path’ and told to be ‘ Jain’ ;
hence it reveals the ancient nature of Jain path and its primacy.
In
Vaishampayan Sahasra naam’ it is said-
“ ……”
Here the
name of Bhagwan was told as ‘Jineshwara’ hence Jineshwara is Bhagwan.
In the
“Mahimni strotra” authored by Durvasa Rishi it is said- “ …..”
Here ‘ You
are Arahant’ – with such words the stuti of Bhagwant is performed; hence the
Bhagwant nature of Arahant is revealed.
In
‘Hanumannatak’ it is said- “ ….”
Here in six
faiths one Ishwara is told, there too in Arahant Deva the Ishwara nature is
revealed.
Here
someone says- just
as in several faiths one Ishwara is accepted, in the same way you also accept.
To him is
it told- This is
told by you , not us; hence in your faith the Ishwara nature of Arahant is
established. If the same is also told in our faith also, then we too would
accept Shiva etc. as Ishwara.
Just as-
some businessman shows real jewels and some shows false jewels; there the one
with false jewels tells the rate of all jewels to be equal but how can the one with real jewels accept
that? In the same way Jaini describes real Deva etc. , the other followers
describe false Devas; there the other faith follower for his own glory tells
all of them to be equal, but how can Jaini accept it?
In “Bhavani
SahasraNaam’ of ‘Rudrayaamalatantra’ it is said- “….”
Here the
name of Bhavani is said to be ‘Jineshwari’ etc.; thus ‘ the supremacy of ‘ Jin’
was revealed.
In ‘Ganesh
Purana’ it is said – “….”
In
‘Vyaskrita sutra’ it is said – “ …..”
….etc. in
their shstras ‘ Jain narration’ is there; hence the ancient nature of Jain
faith is revealed.
In the fifth
skandh of ‘Bhagwat’ there is description of ‘Rishabh Avatar’ ; there he is told
to be compassionate, devoid of thirst etc. , having dhyan posture, worshipped
by all ashramas (groups); in accordance with them ’the Arahant Raja manifested’
– this is told; hence just as in accordance with incarnations of Ram-Krishna
etc. the other faiths are there; in the same way in accordance with incarnation
of Rishabh the ‘Jain faith’ exists. In this way with your faith
itself the Jain faith was established.
Here this
too should be considered that in
accordance with incarnation of Krishna etc, the propagation of sensory
subjects-passions etc. occurs; in accordance with Rishabh incarnation the
propagation of Veetrag equanimity occurs. By accepting both tendencies as same
there is no difference between dharma-adharma and by accepting difference, the
one which is appropriate, that should be
followed.
In
‘Dashavatara charitra’ the form of Buddhavatara is told to be like that of Arahant
Deva; if such form is venerable then simply Arahant Deva is venerable.
In “Kashi
Khand’ by addressing Devadas King, the kingdom was renounced; there Narayan
became Vinaya Kirti Yati; Lakshmi was made to be VinayShri Aryika ; Garud was
made as Shravak – such narration is there; hence where addressal was done,
there Jain attire was given; therefore Jain appear to be benedictory and
ancient.
In ‘Prabhas
Purana’ it is said – “…..”
Here ‘Vaman’
is said to have darshan of ‘Padmasan Digamber Neminath’ ; the same is called as
‘Shiva’ and with his darshan etc. the benefit of crores of Yagya is attained- such
form of Neminath is accepted by Jaini directly ; hence it is Praman.
In the same
‘Prabhas Purana’ it is also said – “ ….”
Here
Neminath is called by ‘Jina’ name; his place is called as Ashram of Rishi and
cause of salvation and the place of Yuga etc. are also said to be same; hence
they are greatly venerable.
In
Bhavavatar Rahasya of ‘Nagar Purana’ it is said- “….”
Here “Arham”
– such state is called as ‘Param Tattva’ , with its knowledge the attainment of
supreme gati is told; hence ‘Arham’ state is the same as that of Jain faith.
In ‘Nagar
Purana’ it is said- “….”
Here in
Krita Yuga the benefit of feeding ten Brahmans is told to be equal to the
benefit of feeding Arahant disciple Muni in Kali Yuga; hence jain muni is
supreme.
In ‘Manu
Smriti’ it is told- “…..”
Here
VimalVahan etc. Manu are told, there the same names are told as that of Jain
Kulkaras and here first Jina was said to be director of path in the beginning
of Yuga and venerated by Sura-Asura – this is the same way which is there in
Jain faith in beginning of Yuga hence why it cannot be called as Praman form?
In RigVeda
it is told – “ …..”
In YajurVeda
it is told - “ ….” , “…….” etc.
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Here
the poojan etc. of Jain Tirthanakaras is carried out hence this too is apparent
that after them only, the Vedas have
been created.
In the same
way with the attestations of granths of other faiths also, the supremacy of
Jina Faith and its ancient nature is established and upon observation of Jina
faith , those faiths appear to be imaginary only ; hence those who are interested in benefit for self
, they should abandon partiality and accept the true Jain faith.
In other faiths the contradiction between
earlier-later is apparent-
In the first incarnation the redemption of
Vedas was carried out, there the Himsa in Yagya etc. was supported and in
Buddha incarnation , criticising Yagya the himsa was negated. In Vrishabh
incarnation the path of Veetrag Samyam was shown and in Krishna incarnation the
enjoyment with other women etc. form path of sensual pleasures and Kashaya was shown.
Now , who
should the worldly people follow? In accordance with whom they should practice?
– They tell all the incarnations to be same but some tell one way and then
other way and practice that way; then how can we have faith in their telling
and practicing?
Somewhere
they negate the anger etc. kashayas and sensory subjects and somewhere they
preach for fighting and enjoyment of sensory subjects. They call it as destiny
but without generation of anger etc. , if the fighting etc. activities happen
then it can be accepted, but it does not happen that way. And with fighting
etc. activities if the anger etc. are not generated then which different anger
etc. are there which have been negated; hence this is not acceptable, there is
contradiction between earlier and later.
In Gita by
showing Veetragta the preachment of war is given, this is directly
contradictory. And ‘Rishishwara etc. gave ‘curse’ – how such anger is not deplorable? Etc.
And it is
told that without son the gati is not attained, where as in ‘Bharat’ it is said
that Kumar Bramhacharis went to heaven – this is directly contradictory.
In
Rishishwara ‘Bharat’ it is said – “ ….”
Here the
wine-meat etc., food in the night and specially night food in four month period
( rainy season) and partaking of roots are negated.
On the other
hand their great people are said to be enjoyer of wine-meat etc. Contradictory
statement of eating at night during Vrita etc. and eating of roots etc. are
made.
In the same
way different contradictory statements are made in the shastras of other
faiths; hence what to do? Somewhere, knowing them to be earlier tradition, for
giving confidence, they are called as real and somewhere for propagating
sensory subjects and Kashaya they are called as unreal; hence where the
contradiction between past and present statements is there, how can they be
Praman?
In other
faiths, the words supporting forgiveness, sheel, satisfaction etc. are found in
Jain faith also and the contrary words are their imaginations. There by
accepting the words in accordance with Jina faith, the wrongs words also get
believed.
Hence by
seeing some part in other faith as good, one should not have shraddhan there.
Just as poison mixed food is not safe, know thus.
And if
some part of good dharma is not found in
Jina faith and it is found elsewhere or, if some part of unacceptable adharma
is found in Jina faith and it is not found elsewhere then have respect for
other faith, but this has never happened since in the knowledge of omniscient
nothing is hidden. Therefore
discarding the shraddhan of other faiths, have strong shraddhan of Jina Faith.
Continued…..