Sunday, April 21, 2024

Seventeen Questions ….26

 

16.2. Answer- If the person asking question has some special purpose in mind while questioning, then that purpose should also be mentioned.

Deluded belief in Jivas etc. form seven substances only is Mithyatva then how can that belief be called imaginary? In the same way, in the writeup, topics  of non contextual nature and worrisome ideas have been put forth. If the bandh of the soul with dravya form karmas is accepted by the authors of the shastras from aspect of Vyavahar naya and keeping within same boundaries we answer your questions ensuring respect of the shastras then what is wrong there?

Samaysar is Agam granth narrating with primacy of adhyatma while remaining agam granths have been written with primacy of Vyavahara naya ( Dhavala, Tattvarth Vartik, Gommatsar, Moolachar). The shastras in which the different divisions of Jiva sthana, Guna sthana, Margana Sthana etc. have been dealt with, they are written with prominence of Vyavahara naya.

Therefore in those Granths, the narration is with the eminence of nimittas that the jiva is continuing in the world on account of karmas. Such statements are not real  but they are accepted from aspect of Vyavahara naya. Therefore rather that deriving wrong meaning, it should be interpreted that ‘ this worldly jiva due to his own ignorance is continuing to stay in the world.’ There is not even an iota of the fault of corporeal karmas. Ascribing own fault of subjugation on karmas should be accepted as the influence of Vaisheshik- naiyayik darshan who believe that soul is subjugated. But the real cause for the same is ignorance-mithya darshan manifestations of soul and not karmas. If he does not take notice of his own ignorance , then there is no way that can rid him of the subordination. He may practice Vrita, samiti etc. keep silence  etc. but so long as ignorance is prevalent in the jiva, till then even an iota of benefit would not accrue to the soul . The benefits which enhance the continuance of worldly stay cannot be called as real benefits. Just as some thief indulges in stealing and says that due to fruition of ashubha karmas he is forced to undertake thievery. Therefore the prime cause for subjugation of jiva is ignorance bhava of the soul only. The udai-udeerana of darshan mohaniya is merely nimitta only.

Further it has been wrongly written that with the activity form Vyavahara dharma, Nishchaya form shuddhata is attained hence it is essential means for Moksha etc.

Samaysar 153- Following Vrita and Niyams and practicing morality, those who are away from reality ( belief of param gyan natured soul), they cannot attain nirvana.

Gyan only is means for Moksha since in its absence in spite of practicing vrita, niyam, tapa etc. form Shubha karmas, Moksha is not attained. Agyan only is the cause for bandh since in its absence, in spite of absence of the external  Vrita, tapa etc. form Shubha karmas, the  gyanis attain Moksha.

The term Gyan is indicator of Samyak darshan and Agyan term indicates Mithya darshan.

Naya Chakra- That upayoga of soul which is engaged in bhakti of deva, guru, shastra and activities of Guna-Upachar,  engrossed in pooja, daan etc., it is Shubha Upayoga.

It is clear that in Agam Vyavahara dharma implies raga fraction occurring along with the partial purity of jiva. This is purely bandh marg only . Even if it is mentioned as means for Nirjara, then it has been written in Upachar sense since this fractional raga  is carried out along with nishchaya jewel trio form pure manifestation of the soul. Therefore ‘Vyavahara dharma is cause for Moksha’ should be known in Upachar sense and not in reality. The words of Agam should be narrated after knowing their shabdartha,  nayartha, matartha, agamartha and Bhavartha only.  

In 10th gunasthana the raga bhava is there which is cause for bandh only but from 7th gunasthana onwards such fractional raga occurs unknowingly hence it does not cause any hindrance in the attainment of shuddhopayoga.

This opinion has been expressed that if Vyavahara dharma is not believed to be practitioner of nishchaya dharma then the activities of shravak-muni become fruitless. But such fear should not be felt. When the soul returns to shubhopayoga from shuddhopayoga then in accordance with that state the external activities also occur. Along with Shuddha manifestation applicable to shravak the primacy is that of shubhopayoga while for Sadhu the shuddhopayoga is prime and shubhopayoga is secondary. It is clear that shubhopayoga results  in increase of duration and intensity of karma bandh while with shuddhopayoga the duration-intensity gets reduced.

The purity in soul occurs by taking recourse to swabhava and not with recourse to vyavahara.

Here Guna-paryaya form substance is not being negated. Here the objective is to tell that by focusing his attention of whom the jiva can become  eligible for Moksha marga. The preachment is that ‘ you are paryaya buddhi since beginningless time . For once abandoning the vikalpas of punya-pap, nimitta and guna-paryaya, make efforts for taking  recourse to own nature’ . Where is Ekant in this preachment?

Samaysar 156- Pandits practice by means of Vyavahara abandoning the subject of nishchaya naya. However the destruction of karmas has been told in Agam only for the Munis who take recourse to reality.

The conclusion is that taking recourse to swabhava only is venerable.

Samaysar 186- Jiva experiencing pure soul attains Shuddha atma only while Jiva experiencing ashuddha atma attains ashuddha atma only.

Counter Question 3- The meaning of word Anekant is several dharmas i.e. two opposing dharmas.  It implies presence of two opposing dharmas  in the same substance. In both dharmas each of them is described by one naya each. One  naya describes one dharma only and not the entire substance, The nature of substance is completely defined by conjoining the statements of both nayas. The two prime nayas are dravyarthika and paryayarthika. The Dravyarthika naya is Nishchaya naya and Paryayarthika naya is Vyavahara naya.

Samaysar 141- Jiva is in bonded with karmas and he is in contact with them – such statement is of Vyavahara naya. The jiva does not bond with karmas nor touches them- such statement is that of Nishchaya naya.

Such conflicting nayas have been described in Samaysar Kalash 70-89- Baddha- Abaddha,  Moodh-Amoodha, ragi-aragi, dweshi-adweshi, karta-akarta, bhokta-abhokta, jiva-non jiva, sookshma-non sookshma, hetu- not hetu, karya- not karya, bhava- abhava, ek-anek, shant-ashant, nitya-anitya, Vachya-avachya, nana-anana, chetya-achetya, Drishya-adrishya, vedya-avedya, bhaat-abhaat.

Out of these two nayas calling some naya as real and other one as non-real is not possible. All nayas are competent in describing their subject and are incompetent for negating other nayas. The knower of Anekant (Samyak Drishti) does not call one naya as true and other naya as untrue.

Samaysar 143 – The person who knows the soul, he merely knows the narration of both nayas. But he does not take sides of the naya since he is devoid of taking sides of nayas. It implies that one should not insist upon a specific naya.

Pancha Dhyayi 127- Although Nishchaya naya negates different vikalpas of the form ‘dravya is’ or ‘guna is’ etc., hence it is called as real  sovereignty, but in soul experience ‘ neither’ – this vikalpa also does not exist. Hence Nishchaya naya is not cause for soul experience- this should be understood.

This establishes that recourse to merely Nishchaya naya alone is not sufficient to attain Moksha Marga.

In your statements you have told several times that this proposition is from aspect of Vyavahara naya and not Nishchaya naya. Sometimes it has been called as Upacharita also. From this it appears that only Nishchaya naya alone is true and real and Vyavahara naya is untrue, unreal. Such belief only is Mithyatva form or NishchayaBhas. The preachment of Bhagwan is  based upon two nayas. Has the omniscient preached Vyavahara Moksha Marga falsely?

Therefore this Siddhant alone is Samyak that from aspect of Nishchaya naya i.e. swabhava  there is no bandh or Moksha while from aspect of Vyavahara naya (paryaya) bandh  exists and Moksha also exists. Both propositions are true and real.

Samaysar 46- If Proposition of Vyavahara naya is not made then in spite of crushing trasa sthavar jivas, there would not be any himsa nor would there be any bandh. If jiva is different from raga dwesha as declared in Paramartha then there would not be any means for Moksha nor would there be Moksha.

Aapt Pariksha 114-115-  Those who subjugate the Jivas are called Karmas which are of two kinds- dravya karma and bhava karma. Dravya karmas are of 148 kinds which are pudgala manifestation form like shackles.

Question- Anger etc. are cause for subordination?

Answer- No, they are manifestations of the Jiva, hence are subjugation form but are not cause for subjugation.

It is clear that anger etc. manifestation of Jiva itself is subjugation, but not cause for subjugation.

In the same way Shri Akalank Deva also considers prime cause for subordination of jiva to be karmas only.

In spite of these Pramans, you believe in Ekant way that jiva by his own agyan bhavas alone is being subjugated – which is not right.

PanchDhyayi (Pt. Phoolchand) – The manifestation of Jiva at every samaya is pudgala nimittak rather than being independent. The manifestation of pudgala also is not independent and is different karma form based upon jiva manifestations. This only is called subjugation. In this way jiva is dependent upon pudgala and pudgala is dependent upon Jiva.

Further- The worldly jiva is bonded with eight types of karmas due to which he has forgotten his own nature and is believing other’s nature to be his own.

If Agyan bhava alone is considered to be cause of subjugation then at the first samaya of 13th gunasthana jiva should become free. However till the four aghati karmas are not destroyed, the jiva remains subjugated.

According to you Samaysar being Adhyatma Grath is Pramanik while other granths having primacy of Vyavahara naya, are untrue and non-Pramanik. In samaysar also there is narration of Vyavahara hence that should also be unacceptable. This only is Ekant Nishchaya MithyaVad.

Not only this, rather than believing upon the Pramans provided by Acharyas, you believe the prayers written by householders in local language as more Pramanik and using them refute the words of Acharyas. This is a strange situation.

RajVartik – Gyan without kriya is ineffective and the kriya of agyani is also useless. In the forest fire, the blind running without knowing the path gets burnt while lame knowing the path also gets burnt.

Just as there is no predefined time of applying Upayoga towards pots and pans, in the same way there is no predefined time of engrossing within self. The external-internal suitable materials are regulators of the activities. If  kaal alone is accepted to be the cause for all the activities then all other causal materials would be eliminated.

Renunciation of paps only is Vrita and Samayik and Chhedopasthapana Sanyam or Charitra. Charitra is cause for Moksha Marga and Samvar then how can Vritas be called as raga bhava? If Vritas are believed to be raga bhava then Vyavahara dharma would not be possible which is means for Nishchaya.

In 4th gunasthana Samyak Darshan form Shuddha bhava is present and Kashaya form ashuddha bhava also exists. The mixed Upayoga of both these Shuddha ashuddha bhavas is called as Shubhopayoga. In the same way it should be known in 5th and 6th gunasthana. If Shubhopayoga is  not accepted as Shuddha Ashuddha bhava then shubhopayoga would not be means for Moksha.

Bhava Pahud 159- By means of bhakti towards Jinendra the Mohaniya karma gets destroyed.

Gommatsar 224- Other than 3 Ayu, the bondage of maximum duration of all other Prakritis occurs on account of highest Sanklesh manifestations and minimum sthiti bandh occurs due to opposite i.e. Vishuddha  (shubhopayoga) manifestations . The highest sthiti bandh of 3 Ayu occur with Vishuddha manifestations and least sthiti bandh occurs with Sanklesh Manifestations.

In 12th Gatha of Samaysar also it has been told that those who have attained total darshan-gyan-charitra, for them Shuddha Nishchaya Naya is meaningful and till the totality of darshan-gyan-charitra is not attained, till  then Vyavahara naya is meaningful. Hence up to 12th Gunasthana, Vyavahara naya is venerable.

Continued…..

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