Sunday, October 29, 2023

Seventeen Questions.....01

                                                                      

Preface

The entrance of Kanji Swamy in Digamber faith in 1935  brought a revolution in the practice of Digamber Jain faith. He emphasised upon the following of religion based upon the dictates of shastras with particular emphasis on Adhyatma. He preached followers to concentrate upon the soul so as to realise its differentness with respect to all other worldly objects. For this he used Samaysar written by Kunda Kundacharya around 49 AD as the primary means for discourse. Prior to Kanji Swamy those who could understand or preach such shastras could be counted on finger tips. In fact, there was also a decree that these shastras are not meant for householders and they should merely concentrate upon the pooja and fasting. Kanji Swamy brought a revolutionary change in this practice. The importance was laid upon understanding each thing before undertaking it. Experiencing the soul became the prime objective. People who listened to him realised that there was some sense in what he was preaching and they thronged Songarh in thousands to hear and understand him. The culture of reading shastras took birth. As a result people started asking questions if they found discrepancy between the dictates of shastras and practices.

This brought about a fissure in the followers of Digamber Jain faith. Both sides used to quote heavily from scriptures to support their arguments and the common householder was caught in between with uncertainty. Fortunately there were people In Digamber Jain faith who gave more importance upon the brain rather than the brawn. They suggested  to have discussion in peaceful conditions to sort out the differences and result in proper understanding of the religion. Acharya Shivasagar took the lead invoking both sides to organise a conference and  settle the differences.

Such conference was held for 10 days between 20/9/1963 to 1/10/1963 in Khaniya near Jaipur where a great number of Digamber Jain scholars and pandits participated. Rules for debate were laid down. It was agreed to have deliberation in three rounds of written form in terms of questions and answers. Fortunately two rounds were completed during this conference itself and third round was completed by June next year . These were published in the form of Khaniya Tattva charcha in two volumes of nearly 700 pages each. For those who want to understand the logic behind the controversies between the two sides, these books are an excellent source.

Both sides were represented by scholars of renowned reputation and standing. On one side it was Pandit Phoolchandra Shastry while on the other side it was led by Pandit Makhan lal ji shastry.

During this conference seventeen questions were raised and answered. If we examine these questions then we find that these were excellent questions which were debated since it explains the whole thinking and logic of each side in totality which is an ideal means for understanding the subject. One should look at these questions and answers not from the objective of victory and defeat but from the objective of understanding the thinking which goes behind every question. It lays bare the entire thought process behind the questions and helps in arriving at the cause for fissure and resolving the matter. Both sides need to be complimented on participating whole heartedly with full vigour. Such literature only enhances the magnificence of the Jain tradition. In my view these are excellent books which one should read and they constitute the most important original books which have been written in this century.

I have attempted to provide a gist of these books in brief here. It is a difficult task since at several places the translation may be inadequate. However I love these books and attempted it nevertheless. I hope people who are interested would read it with due cognizance of this fact. The three rounds of questions have been numbered in their order. I have used italics to highlight the thinking of the rival group which is quite informative as to the line of thinking which was prevalent in those times and even now lot of  people have such conceptions. The highlighting in yellow has been used to mark important points which we should take note. There is no doubt that those who can, should read the original only. I engaged in this translation since it gives me opportunity to understand it better myself. Hence I hope my mistakes would be forgiven and people would understand it in the right spirit.

The Seventeen questions which were raised are listed here-

1.  With the fruition of dravya karma the worldly soul manifests in the form of corrupted bhavas and transmigrates in four gatis or not?

2. Whether the activities of live body result in dharma adharma for the soul or not?

3. Believing compassion towards jivas to be dharma – is it Mithyatva ?

4. Is  Vyavahara dharma instrumental in attaining Nishchaya dharma or not?

5. All the paryayas manifesting in the Dravya occur  in pre-ordained sequence only or non sequential manner also?

6. In the deed form manifestation of Upadan, does the nimitta reason assist or not?

7. The Omniscience of Kevali Bhagwan is from aspect of Nishchaya or Vyavahara? If it is from aspect of Vyavahara then whether it is Real or Unreal?

8. Whether Divya Dhwani and Keval Gyan or Kevali Atma have any relationship or not? If it is there then what is that relationship? Is it real? Or Unreal? The Divya Dhwani is Pramanik (true) or Apramanik (false)? If it is Pramanik then its Pramanikata is dependent upon self or due to relationship with the soul of Kevali Bhagwan ?

9. Worldly jiva is bonded or free? If he is bonded then with whom is he  bonded and due to bondage, is he dependent or not ? If he is bonded then what is the means for him to be rid of bondage ?

10. The bondage of Jiva and pudgalas and those of two-anu etc. skandhs is real or non-real? If it is non-real then Kevali Bhagwan is aware of it or not?

11. The manifestation has two divisions namely swa-pratyaya and swa-par-pratyaya; what is their real difference?

12. Similar to having faith in KuDeva, KuGuru, KuShastra, having faith in SuDeva, SuGuru, SuShastra is also Mithyatva – Is believing or telling  so, in accordance with the shastras?

13. When the fruition of punya has been told to be the attainment of the state of Arihant due to which this soul becomes owner of the three loks, that has been called as extremely magnificent punya, then is it in accordance with shastras to  call that punya as poor and renounceable and believing so ?

14. Punya, after reaching its pinnacle or after soul manifesting in Shuddha swabhava form, is given up by itself or whether for abandoning the same any Upadesha or effort is required?

15. When abhava (absence) is chatushtaya (foursome) substance form then why they cannot be considered as cause and effect form? Accordingly why the destruction of Ghati karmas does not produce Keval Gyan?

16. What is the form of Nishchaya and Vyavahara ? Is the subject of Vyavahara naya untrue or what? If it is untrue then is it absence form or false form?

17. What are the characteristics of Upachar? If there is Upachar of being causal and Naya-ness between Nimitta cause and Vyavahara naya sequentially then please apply Upachar Characteristics on them to explain.

 

Question 1

With the fruition of dravya karma the worldly soul manifests in the form of corrupted bhavas and transmigrates in four gatis or not?

1.1. Answer : The fruition of dravya karmas and  the  corrupted bhavas of worldly soul resulting in  transmigration in four gatis has nimitta-naimittik relationship from aspect of Vyavahara but not as karta-karma (doer-deed).

Soul is karta (doer) of own bhava but he is not karta of any of the bhavas which are carried out by pudgala karma. In agam, wherever karta-karma relationship has been described between the specific paryayas of two dravyas, it is done so in vyavahara sense only.

Counter Question 2: Our question is from the aspect of Nimitta karta only and not from the aspect of Upadan karta – Panchastikaya Gatha 88- Just as in the unfurling of flag the wind is causal karta agency. In the generation of Manushya etc. form paryayas of jivas the karma has been considered to be karta. Pudgala has such power that it destroys the keval gyan of soul . The ragas etc. form bhavas are not generated in soul alone as Upadan but for them the necessary reason is karmas.

1.2. Answer : You have tried to establish causal relationship between worldly jiva and fruition of karmas with an intent to establish that with the causal means the task in dravya can be carried out earlier or later any time. However the causal karta relationship is only in nimitta sense.

The Nimitta cause are of two kinds- 1)  Those which are nimitta in the activities of another Dravya by means of their own activities. 2) Irrespective of being active or inactive dravyas, those who are not nimitta by means of activities but are nimitta in the deeds of other dravyas remaining inactive. Both types are same. The real producer of the deed is the  timeliness of the moment of the deed only and not nimitta.

Samaysar Kalash 51- The one which manifests is the karta; the result is the karma and the manifestation is the kriya (activity). These three are not different. Therefore it is logical to accept nimitta karta as karta in Vyavahara (upachar) sense only.

In reality to indicate that which Dravya is the nimitta cause in the deed, the nimitta is stated in Upachar (formal) sense as karta. But one dravya cannot function as karta of another dravya.

Although every person before attainment of Bhava Ling accepts Dravya Ling, but that Bhava Ling does not get attained  right at the moment of acceptance of Dravya Ling. However when the Upadan (material cause) attains Bhava Ling then at that moment its nimitta Dravya Ling is present. It is clear that the real promoter of the deed is Upadan (material cause) karta only. The Nimitta is attributed  to be  karta only in Upachar ( formal)  sense.

Continued……..

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