Sunday, November 19, 2023

Seventeen Questions……04

 

                                                            Question 3

Believing compassion towards jivas to be dharma – is it Mithyatva ?

3.1  Answer: If the term Dharma implies Punya Bhava then believing compassion towards jivas to be Punya Bhava is not Mithyatva since it is auspicious manifestation. However if the term Dharma implies Veetrag manifestation then believing compassion towards jivas to be Dharma is Mithyatva. This is so since Punya Bhava is considered to be within the domains of Asrava and Bandh Tattva and not within the domains of Samvar and Nirjara Tattva.

Counter Question 2: Your statement that compassion towards Jivas does not lie within the domains of Samvar and Nirjara is not in accordance with Agam. Adhyavasan ( state of uncertainty of soul due to ignorance) only is the cause for karma bondage. In Samvar Bhavna (spirit) dharma has been declared as primarily compassion.

The purified soul is internal Tattva while compassion towards jivas is external Tattva. Upon mating of the two one attains Moksha. Hence both should be taken recourse to.

Prasham (spiritual calmness), Samvega (fear of worldly sufferings), Anukampa (compassion) and Astikya (right perception) are the characteristics of Samyak darshan with raga. Here Anukampa is compassion which being constituent of Samyak Darshan is dharma form.

3.2  Answer : The rival group has tried to establish with about 20 proofs that believing compassion towards jivas as Dharma is not Mithyatva. In some of the proofs the compassion has been described as cause for Samvar also. However is it possible to accept punya bhava form compassion to be as means for Moksha based upon these ?

Passionate always accrues karma bondage and dispassionate only can be rid of karmas. Shubha bhava, whether it be compassion, tenderness , darshan of Jina image, practice of vows or anything else, if they are Shubha manifestations then they aways result in bondage. Attainment of Samvar, Nirjara or Moksha with them is impossible.

Samyak Drishti has been declared bondage free since he does not have ownership of the raga bhava.

Samaysar 199: Raga is pudgala karma and its fruition form after completion of its duration is such bhava. This bhava is not mine. I am definitely one Gyayak (knower) bhava.

Samaysar 200 : In this way the Samyak Drishti knows the soul (self) as Gyayak natured and knowing the  real nature of Tattva he abandons the results due to fruition of karma.

The compassion of the form of Shubha raga is considered to be part of Karma Chetna hence with the fruition of karma upon its maturity he does experience such kindness but he does not consider self to be its owner. 

Manifestation in raga form is singular reason for bandh only, even though it may be the Sookshma Samparaya raga manifestation of 10th Gunasthana, and Veetrag bhava alone is means for karma destruction, even though it may be the veetrag manifestation of Avirat Samyak Drishti of 4th Gunasthana only.

Samaysar Kalash 107: With the nature of karma the  palace  of gyan cannot be constructed hence karma is not means for Moksha.

Counter Question 3: You have not accepted kindness towards jivas as dharma and declared it to be only punya bondage form and called punya bhava as Shubha manifestation. With about 20 proofs we have established that kindness towards jivas is dharma and punya bhava is dharma form. With Shubha bhavas one attains Samvar-Nirjara. You have told the Shubha manifestation to be only bandh form. In this way you have declared the preachment of Acharyas as Mithya (untrue).

Dhavala 13/362: Tenderness is nature of jiva hence calling it karma generated gives rise to contradiction.

Bhava Sangrah 404: The punya of Samyak Drishti is not cause for the worldly stay but is means for Moksha as a rule.

JayaDhavla 1/6: With Shubha and Shuddha bhavas the karmas get destroyed.

From 4th to 7th Guanasthana only Shubha Upayoga is attained. With such Shubha Upayoga manifestation of one samaya, on account of karya-karan bhava, all the three activities of karma bandh, karma samvar and Karma nirjara form keep happening. This punya only brings the soul closer to salvation.

Mithya Drishti just ready for Samyaktva also carries out innumerable times Nirjara, Sthiti Kandak Ghat and Anubhag Kandak Ghat even in the absence of Shuddha manifestations.

The Shubha bhava of Samyak Drishti in the form of compassion etc. is accepted to be Gyan Chetna form rather than karma chetna form, hence terming it as cause for bandh is contrary to the Agam.

You have accepted Gyan alone to be means for Moksha which is not right. Without Charitra with Gyan only, one cannot attain salvation.

Moksha Pahud 60- Tirthanakara surely attains salvation from the same birth. With birth itself he is holder of Mati, Shruta, Avadhi gyan and upon acceptance of Muni Diksha he becomes holder of four gyans including Manah Paryaya Gyan. In spite of this he practices Tapasya. Therefore person with gyan should surely practice Tapasya. Since without charitra, with gyan alone one does not get salavation.

Statement that with practices of vows attainment of samvar-nirjara and Moksha are impossible; it is absolutely in contravention of scriptures. In one mixed indivisible paryaya both disposition (raga) and renunciation both parts are combined hence with them Asrava-Bandh is also there as well as Samvar-Nirjara. Subsequently with continuous reduction of disposition(raga) part, the samvar-nirjara alone are carried out. Along with ragas the renunciation of paps is present due to which at the same time the Samvar-Nirjara are carried out simultaneously.

In the Agam where the preachment of giving up vows is encountered, there the preachment is meant for attaining nirvikalpa samadhi from the state of savikalpa samadhi by means of abandoning the vikalpas of vows or the adhyavasan experienced in the vows or the raga part tendencies of the vrita (vows) but not the  vritas themselves which are renunciation form. Even in the higher Gunasthana in the shreni (spiritual ladder) the vritas are existent and are not abandoned.

3.3 Answer: We had clarified that the punya (Shubha raga) bhava form compassion is not means for Moksha but if it is construed as Veetrag bhava then being Samvar- Nirjara form it is means for Moksha.

From our reply the implication derived by the rival group is that although the compassion towards jivas is Shubha manifestation form but it is not dharma form. It is true that the kindness towards other jivas is other bhava i.e. raga bhava hence it can never be dharma i.e. Veetrag bhava.

It is true that in some of the proofs given by rival group, the compassion towards jivas is called as dharma and this too is stated that with Shubha bhava the karmas get destroyed. However understanding that from which naya aspect a sentence has been stated and what is its implication is the task of sensible people. The rival group should understand that declaring archaic sentence as untrue is a different matter and explaining its meaning from the aspect it was stated using Naya view points, is another matter. The rival group wishes to mix the Vyavahara and Nishchaya dharma and call them Nishchaya dharma which is not acceptable to us.

In Jinagam, these two divisions, their reasons and their results have been described in different ways. Therefore we shall  the state the same which has been clarified by Jinagam at different places.

Pravachansar 11: If this soul having nature of manifesting in dharma form engages in Shuddhopayoga then he attains pleasure of Moksha and if he engages in Shubhopayoga then he enjoys the pleasures of swarga (heaven).

Does the rival group wish that every Bhavya Jiva believing the compassion towards other jivas only as the means for Moksha, remains busy with it and do not traverse in the benedictory path of real soul benefit by engrossing within own soul nature?

We have divided the kindness towards jivas into compassion towards self and others and the compassion towards self has been counted within the veetrag bhava while the compassion towards others has been counted as raga form punya bhava.

The rival group while quoting from Agam as proof should clarify the meaning of the statement. In JayaDhavla the Shubha manifestations have been called as means for karma destruction like Shuddha manifestations. Here the rival group should clarify that which part is stated from which aspect. Shubha bhava is means for punya bandh only but the shuddhopyoga carried out subsequently is really the cause for karma destruction. Hence Shubha bhava have been called as means for karma destruction in Upachar sense.

It is for the rival group to reflect that why does anyone who is devotee of Jina Vani, without accepting the preachment carried out from specific aspect by the great Acharyas in great scriptures, accepts it in absolute sense ? 

Tattvarthasar 25/26: Compassion, charity, tapa, morality, truth, purification, self control, forgiveness, VaiyyaVritya (pious service), respect, Jina Pooja, Arjava( lack of pride), Sarag Samyam and kindness towards jivas and practitioners of vows are means for influx of Satavedaniya.

The gist of the statements made so far is as follows-

1) The term compassion has been quoted in Agam in both meanings- in the sense of Shubha bhavas as well as in the sense of Veetrag bhavas.

2) Shubha bhava being par (other) bhava, it is counted in the category of asrava and bandh tattva in reality only. Wherever it has been called as means for Nirjara, it is from aspect of Vyavahara naya only.

3) Veetrag bhava being own bhava is treated in the category of samvar,  nirjara and Moksha Tattva only.

4) Veetrag bhava is cause for asrava and bandh in Vyavahara sense – such vyavahara  does not apply on veetrag bhava. Since veetrag bhava has been generated ignoring all kinds of vyavahara, taking recourse to singular nishchaya form Gyayak soul in engrossed form. Hence by nature it is beyond all kinds of Vyavahara. Therefore no upachar can be applicable to it.  

Definitely the result of Shubha bhava is only Asrava and Bandh while the job of Nishchaya jewel trio is just Samvar, Nirjara and Moksha in the end-  this only gets established. Raga bhava and Raga paryaya both being corrupted and having vibhava bhava nature are by themselves bandh form. In such a condition how can it be cause for Samvar and Nirjara? It cannot happen in all three periods of time. The cause for Samvar and Nirjara would be one which by itself is Samvar and Nirjara form. Raga cannot generate Veetrag bhava in all three periods of time for sure. In Agam raga has been called as means for Nishchaya jewel trio from aspect of Vyavahara. This has been done viewing their coexistence in Upachar sense.

This refutes the doctrine of the rival group that in fourth gunasthanas etc. the mixed Shubha bhava of raga part and jewel trio part is cause for Asrava and Bandh as well as Samvar and Nirjara. It only establishes that the raga part alone is cause for Asrava and bandh while jewel trio part is cause for Samvar Nirjara.

The rival group has tried to describe the manifestations of 4-7th gunasthanas as similar to that of 3rd Gunasthana wherein Karma bandh, karma samvar and Karma Nirjara occur  together- this is completely wrong and with it the system of Moksha Marg becomes haywire.

This statement too is also not right that in 4-7th gunasthana shuddhopayoga does not exist. In 4th Gunasthana the experience of the soul is not attained – saying this is contrary to Agam. In 7th Gunasthana the Muni experiences Shuddhopayoga as a rule since there the business of the form of activities of speech-body of Shubha and Ashubha form pertaining to external subjects and internal Shubha Ashubha mental vikalpa form activities have been totally blocked; hence this soul by means of the  nature of inactive permanent pure gyan darshan gets engrossed within own soul. This alone is called as Supreme Dhyan and this only is called soul experience. If such soul experience is not experienced by the Muni then he is not worthy of being called Muni. The characteristics of gyani is this only that he should manifest in gyan nature form. Opposite to this, the one who manifests in raga nature form, he is Agyani. Samyak Drishti knows the nature of self to be different from others as it is and the manifestation of soul different from other bhavas in knowing natured form is the experience of soul. The subject of shubhopayoga is other substances while experience of soul is different from it. Hence it is established that in 4th gunasthana also shuddhopayoga is present but the experience of the soul is for a limited duration after a long interval hence it has not been declared in gunasthanas. It is definite that the experience of the soul in these gunasthanas are called as dharma dhyan only and not Shukla dhyan. In Shukla dhyan only shuddhopayoga is present.

Only one Upayoga is present at a specific time. In the period of Shuddhopayoga samvar and nirjara are present while in period of shubhopayoga  asrava and bandh are there.

For the Mithya Drishti jiva ready to attain Samyaktva in first gunasthana, while getting engrossed in nature of soul different from the bhavas of other dravyas, the type of purity which is generated, that purity only is cause for innumerable times nirjara etc., but not the shubhopayoga manifestations engaged in  bhavas of the other dravyas. Since this jiva is Mithya Drsithi, it would not be appropriate to call it shubhopayoga similar to shuddhopayoga. Here the uniqueness is due to readiness of soul for experiencing own nature.

The vyavahara of the vows etc. told from the aspect of vyavahara naya are called as Charitra, Samyam and dharma dhyan only. Hence telling that they enable attainment of samvar, nirjara and moksha from aspect of nishchaya is against the doctrine of Agam.  

Continued……

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