Question 6
In the deed form manifestation of Upadan, does the nimitta reason
assist or not?
6.1 Answer - In reality the meaning of the terms
Nimitta reason and assistant imply the same. However it should be clearly
understood that it has been accepted
from aspect of Vyavahara naya only and not from aspect of Nishchaya naya (
Paryayarthika Nishchaya naya).
Tattvartha Shloka Vartik- The arrangement of Utpad-Vyaya-Dhrovya
(generation-destruction-permanence) of all dravyas in any form is Visrasa (
unassisted) from aspect of Nishchaya naya, from aspect of Vyavahara naya it
appears to be assisted.
Counter Question 2 – The question is whether the deed is
carried out by only Upadan or Upadan along with Nimitta reasons. Some place
they have been described as internal and external reasons. The internal implies
the Dravya shakti (capability) and external implies assistant in carrying out
the deed. Whenever shakti appears in manifested form, it does so with the
assistance of nimitta only. For example when Labdhi form consciousness
manifests in Upayoga form then it is accomplished by means of eyes senses only.
The formation of image in the eyes is physical manifestation and later its
realisation and knowing the mental (internal) manifestation. If physical
manifestation is not there then even in all three periods of time the internal
manifestation i.e. consciousness would not proceed from Labdhi towards Upayoga.
This only means Nimitta in carrying out the deed.
The substance has capability for carrying out the deed but
the deed shall be carried out only when external reasons are present. Without
it the capability does not appear in manifested form. This external substance
only without remaining as gyeya (subject of knowledge) alone becomes desire and
generates the Kashaya in the soul.
Samaysar 80- Pudgala manifest in karma form with the nimitta
of Jiva’s manifestation and Jivas also manifest with the nimitta of pudgala
karma. `
Mithyatva, Ignorance and Kashaya all the three are pudgala
only. If they are not accepted as pudgala form only, then cause-effect
relationship would not exist. Acharya Amritchandra also has accepted this.
Acharya Amritchandra (278-279)- The sapphire jewel in spite
of being pure is turned red by reddish dravyas. In the same way in spite of
Gyani i.e. soul being pure, does not manifest in ragas etc. form on his own but
becomes raga form on account of other raga etc. form flaws.
1. If you say that deed is carried out by Upadan alone and
nimitta remains present only, then the question arises that how it became
nimitta? How other substances which are
present are not nimitta? Proof should be submitted for the reason.
2. The second thing is
that by accepting Upadan and Nimitta to be uncorrelated, the arrangement of
Bandh etc. tattvas also would not be accomplished.
3. With the body manifestation of small-big size only of the innumerable
Pradesh jiva, the shape has been called as small-big. If jiva is accepted as
devoid of effects of body then this too could not be said and it would be
contradictory to the Agam.
4. In this way the arrangement of fruits of karmas would also
get eliminated. If karma bandh due to vibhava and vibhava due to fruition of
karmas is not accepted then the arrangement of karma fruition would not exist.
Then how can it be said that this is effect of fruition of that karma?
5. There is contradiction between the nimitta reasons merely
remaining present and nimitta reasons performing the deed. One is based upon
presence and other is Prerak (
instigator) or doer. There is difference between the two. In the Lok Prerak
Nimitta reasons also exist which are different from Dharmas etc. dravyas.
In brief the conclusion is as follows-
(i) The deed is carried out by Upadan reason alone - this it is delusion, since there is lack of proofs
in favour of it.
(ii) During the deed, just by its presence, some thing can be
nimitta reason- this is false since
there is lack of proofs in favour of it.
(iii) The generation of deed is by means of Upadan and
Nimitta reasons only- This is proper which is favoured by shastras.
6.2. Answer - Here without paying attention to
the praman of Tattvartha Shloka Vartik, it has been tried to establish that the
generation of deed is by means of Nimitta. The Nishchaya reason of Upadan has
been ignored.
In the Agam, from aspect of Praman, the generation of deed
has been described everywhere by means of both. There is not a single Praman
wherein in the absence of Upadan (Nishchaya) reason, only by means of Nimitta
the deed gets performed.
The question is whether without reaching its specific Upadan
state, only by means of Nimitta some wheat seed germinates into sapling form
or, when the seed reaches its specific Upadan state then only it manifests into
the wheat sapling form?
Acharyas have told in
very clear terms that when any Dravya is
ready to perform a specific task then the paryayas of other favourable dravyas
are only Nimitta in the generation of the deed.
RajVaratik- With the readiness of the mud to be manifested
into pot form by itself, then the paryayas of other favourable dravyas function
as Nimitta alone in its generation.
This is clarification of Prerak (instigator) Nimitta . The mud which would manifest into pot
paryaya form in the immediate next moment, that mud alone is the Upadan of the
Pot paryaya. At the same time, wheel, stick, efforts of potter etc. are nimitta, not at any other time. Dravya
shakti equipped with specific paryaya shakti favourable to assisting causes
only is considered as capable. Only Dravya shakti alone with the assistance of
prerak or udaseen nimittas cannot generate the deed in the Dravya. If Dravya
shakti alone is believed then from grams
wheat could be produced. If without specific paryaya, the Dravya samanya
(general) be considered as cause for generation of wheat saplings paryaya etc.
by the power of nimittas, then the pudgala grams also would start producing
wheat form paryaya being pudgala.
Actually by not paying
Samyak attention to the correct meaning of Upadan this argument has been
created.
Vrihad Dravya Sangrah (Gatha 8)- This Jiva from aspect of Anupacharita Asadbhoot Vyavahara
naya, is karta of Gyanavarana etc. Dravya karmas, the ‘etc.’ term implying
Audayik, Vaikriyik and Aharak form three bodies and pudgala mass form nine
karmas suitable for ahar etc. six
paryaptis and from aspect of Upacharita Sadbhoot Vyavahara naya, is karta of
external subjects pot-cloth etc.
In the statement that jiva having innumerable Pradesh has to
manifest in accordance with the body - here also Samyak arrangement is made by
accepting the cause-effect relationships of Upadan-nimitta . Since Upadan form jiva
has capability to manifest himself; hence with the body as nimitta,
jiva himself manifests in contraction-expansion form.
Akalank Deva- In
accordance with the destiny the intellect changes accordingly and purushartha
also materialises in the same way and the assisting causes (nimitta causes)
also are available accordingly.
Counter Question 3: Your interpretation of the word
Vyavahara as ‘imaginary’ based upon the statement of Tattvartha Shloka Vartik
is baseless with which we are not agreeable. Further we examine this-
Vyavahara and Nishchaya nayas are of both kinds, word form
and knowledge form. Out of them the expositor words of Vyavahara form meaning conveying
Nishchaya form meaning are Vyavahara
naya. The expositor words of Nishchaya form meaning conveying Vyavahara form meaning are Nishchaya naya. In
the same way the informant words of
Vyavahara form meaning conveying Nishchaya form meaning are Vyavahara naya and
informant words of Nishchaya form conveying Vyavahara form meaning are Nishchaya
naya. First two should be known as divisions of speech form naya while other
two should be known as divisions of gyan naya.
In reality since the subject is that of cause-effect bhava,
the meaning of Nishchaya words should be sensed as Upadana-Upadeya bhava while
that of Vyavahara words should be sensed as Nimitta-Naimittik bhava. Thus the
meaning of shloka of Tattvartha Shloka Vartik would be as follows-
‘The arrangement of Utpad-vyaya-dhrovya of all dravyas from
aspect of Nishchaya naya i.e. Upadan-Upadeya bhava is Visrasa (natural). From
aspect of Vyavahara naya i.e. Nimitta-Naimittik bhava only, these Utpad etc.
appear to be having a cause. ‘
You have attempted to prove the meaning of Vyavahara as
Upachar thereby establishing nimitta-naimittik bhava as imaginary in spite of lack of Praman, while
the meaning of term Vyavahara by us is Praman verified nimitta-naimittik bhava
which is real only. In view of Acharya Vidyanand, the nimitta-naimittik bhava
is not imaginary but real.
In the substance, by nature, different predefined Upadan
capabilities are present simultaneously. However when the nimitta of assisting
material favourable to the Upadan capability is available then based upon the
support of Nimitta material only, the substance would manifest in accordance
with the Upadan capability present within itself.
In the mud the Upadan capabilities of making various pots,
pans etc. are present. The potter based upon his desire and efforts
capabilities with the nimitta of wheel, stick etc. manufactures the pot or the
pan.
We ask you that if you have faith in your Siddhant regarding
the generation of deed then being detached of the sankalpa, vikalpa and
purushartha pertaining to deed and its source
materials, are you willing to sit quietly with inactivity ?
It is clear that just as Upadan-Upadeya bhava is real , in
the same way nimitta-naimittik bhava is also real. It is not Upacharita or
imaginary.
Ashta Sahasri- The means of pot destruction – hammer converts
the existing substance to non-existent form hence how can it be called as irrelevant ?
With this statement the irrelevancy of nimitta cause gets
refuted.
5.3. Answer – The rival group says that substance has capability to perform deed and
it would remain existent, but the substance would carry out the deed only when
external causes are favourable. In the previous answer we had told the meaning
of vyavahara as asadbhoot vyavahara appliable to the gatha of Vrihad Dravya
Sangrah but they reject it saying that we call it imaginary.
(1) Vyavahara naya and its subject
The rival group has not given any Agam praman for
verification of the characteristics of Vyavahara naya and Nishchaya naya as
defined by them. We now view it from the viewpoint of Acharyas-
Alaap Paddhati- Implying dharma famous elsewhere upon another situation is Asadbhoot
Vyavahara. The meaning of Asadbhoot Vyavahara itself is Upachar. After Upachar
also if Upachar is carried out then it is called as Upacharita Asadbhoot
Vyavahara. The differentiation of Guna-Guni, Paryaya-Paryayi, Swabhava and Swabhavavan,
Karak -Karakvan is Sadbhoot Vyavahara. Upachar of Dravya in Dravya, Upachar of
paryaya in paryaya, Upachar of Guna in guna, Upachar of paryaya in Guna,
Upachar of Dravya in paryaya, Upachar of guna in paryaya, Upachar of Dravya in
paryaya, upachar of guna in paryaya, in this way nine types of meanings of asadbhoot vyavahara should be
known.
The pot of ghee is example of Asadbhoot Vyavahara.
The one which
establishes the Nishchaya, that only is named as Vyavahara. In spite of being
Upacharita it is accepted in Agam.
Here the substance in which the nimitta vyavahara is carried
out, that is not the real cause for the
specific deed carried out by other
Dravya. Even so, it surely has external pervasiveness in the form of time
closeness with the Upadan cause of the deed. For this reason, the causal dharma
residing in Upadan gets established by the same and in this external substance
also nimitta i.e. causal dharma is implied in Upachar sense. This is the
meaning of Upacharita Asadbhoot Vyavahara.
It should be noted that Jiva and karmas have
nimitta-naimittik relationship form synthetic relationship since long. Hence in
the karma bondage accrued with the nimitta of raga-dwesha manifestations of the
jiva, there the upachar of carrying out
karta dharma of the form of performing the karmas due to the manifestations of the jiva is primary.
Hence jiva carried out karmas, such a statement would be Anupacharita Asadbhoot
Vyavahara.
The conclusion is that
where synthetic relationship is not existing, there the attribution of karta
etc. dharma of one substance upon the second substance is named as Upachrita
Asadbhoot Vyavahara. Where synthetic relationship is with nimitta-naimittik
bhava , there the allegation of karta etc. dharma of one substance upon another
substance is Anupacharita asadbhoot vyavahara.
Vrihad Dravya Sangrah- Devoid of spirit of Shuddha Atma
Tattva which is free of activities of mind, speech, body, this jiva from aspect
of anupacharita asadbhoot vyavahara is karta of gyanavarana etc. Dravya karmas
wherein the ‘etc.’ term implies three bodies of Audarik, Vaikriyik and Aharak
and pudgala mass form nokarmas suitable for ahar etc. six paryaptis while from
aspect of upacharita asadbhoot vyavahara naya he is karta of external subjects
pots and pans etc.
(2) Samyak Nishchaya Naya and its subject
The way every substance is permanent by nature, in the same
way it has nature of utpad-Vyaya also. The entity from aspect of general nature
is neither generated nor destroyed from aspect of continuity dharma. Here the
generation-destruction should be known from aspect of paryaya only. Hence
sovereignty of any substance is Utpad etc. three forms.
Now the point to be considered is whether that
generation-destruction is self created or others created or created by both?
Creation by others is not possible since both do not have common existence. In
spite of having different existence, by carrying out deed of the form of
manifestation in another substance, it results in contradiction- By accepting
deed in other’s existence different from own, the two cannot have different
existences. Therefore Acharyas
have not accepted one Dravya or its guna dharma as real karta of another Dravya
or its guna dharma. Under such conditions the utpad-vyaya of another
Dravya cannot be created by both also. Therefore in reality every deed is self created only.
This should be the Nishchaya. By this the real reason and karta etc.
dharmas from aspect of each individual deeds also get established.
Sarvartha Siiddhi 1/1- The one who sees, the means by which
seen or viewing alone is Darshan. The one who knows, the means by which known
or knowing alone is Gyan. The one who conducts, the means by which conduct is
practiced or conducting alone is Charitra.
In this way same is karta and the same is the means. This is
statement from aspect of differentiation of the own manifestation and the one
who manifests, just as fire burns the fuel by means of burning manifestation.
PravachanSar (Gatha 16)- In this way this soul attaining own
nature is Omniscient, being himself
worshipped by all the kings of all the Loks is therefore Swayambhoo-
thus has been told by Jinendra.
Here himself term denotes all the six predicates in Nishchaya
form. Therefore soul does
not have predicate form relationship with others definitely, due to which searching
for the materials for attainment of Shuddha soul nature, the restless jivas become
dependent.
In this way manifesting by himself in undifferentiated six
predicates form this soul, in the proposal for generation of keval gyan
with Paramatma nature, does not expect
presence of different predicates hence is Swayambhoo.
This also establishes that where this jiva has expectation of
others in vikalpa form, there the
generation of ragas etc. form vibhava paryaya takes place.
Continued…..
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