Sunday, February 9, 2025

Gyan Goshthi….18 (Concluding part)

 


18. Vividh ( Miscelleneous)

640. Q: By believing the wife-son etc. to be gang of looters, it results in quarrel in the home?

A: By accepting other dravya to be own, internally a big quarrel of Mithyatva results, due to which the dukh of four gati is being suffered. The family people are own with selfish motive, this is a fact. For serving own selfish motives they love – realising this give up internal oneness. This is meant to relinquish the eternal quarrel. People call 15th August as independence day. Renouncing the humiliation of desiring sukh from others , believing sukh in swabhava only is real independence. Samyak Drishti is dharmatma enjoying that indestructible kingdom of self , he is real king. The king enjoying external kingdom enjoys the restlessness of deriving sukh from others, but not peace of atma.

641. Q: The leprosy disease of shri Vadiraj Muniraj was cured by performing stuti itself, the locks in the jail of Mantungacharya Deva were shattered by performing stuti, the fire also became water form by the pure sheel of Sitaji – such description is there in shastras- what do we understand with this ?

A: With the yog of previous punya the leprosy of Vadiraj Muniraj was cured,  the locks of Mantungacharya got shattered and the fire pond of Sitaji also became water lake, then that fruition of punya was alleged to be due to present Prabhu Bhakti and practice of Bramhacharya etc. – such is the style of narration in Prathamanuyoga which should be understood properly. In Moksha Marg Prakashak it has been specifically clarified, see it from there.

642. Q: Whether the one siding with Dravyanuyoga can be Nishchayabhasi ?

A: Yes, if he attains knowledge of Nishchaya but does not experience and considers himself to be experienced, then he is Nishchayabhasi.

643. Q: What is the duty of Manushya? What is Manav dharma? Please tell. 

A: Brother! First of all ‘I am manushya’ this belief itself is great delusion. Being  Manushya is coincidental paryaya, it is paryaya of dissimilar category with conjunction of jiva-pudgala , not the nature of soul. Hence Manushya paryaya is not mine, I am gyan form soul- understand this, this is the first duty- dharma. After attaining Manushya birth if something is worth doing then it is this only. Against this ‘I am manushya ‘ thus believing what all activities are performed, they are all Vyavahara of Agyani jivas.

644. Q: It appears that money-wealth have great attracting power ?

A: There is no attraction in money-wealth, this is the foolishness of the moha of jiva – madness. Indulging in moha with others, spoiling own rebirths, he goes for travelling in the order of 84.

645. Q: Till infinite period the soul has not been understood, then how can it be understood now?

A: For infinite period it was not understood, it does not mean that it would never be understood. Has the capability to understand has been lost? Just as water remains warm with the nimitta of fire for 100 years, then does it destroy its cold nature? If the vessel with hot water kept on stove falls upon the fire, then also its has extinguishing nature only. In the same way due to converse interests the soul was not understood for infinite period, but if the interest takes a U turn then within moments the soul can be understood and you can  be benefited.

646. Q:  What is the meaning of promiscuity?

A: The corrupted paryaya is not mine- thus believing he practices corruption , although the impurity keeps enhancing , even then he indulges in them  and reading that ‘enjoyments of gyani are nimitta for nirjara’ -he starts believing that with his bhavas of enjoyments also, those bhavas of sensual pleasures are leading to Nirjara- then he is promiscuous. The true Mumukshu does not practice such promiscuity. He considers the corruption of paryaya to be his fault- knows it alright in gyan . Does not remain ignorant about pap. His heart is flooded with compassion and detachment.

647. Q: On one hand the body is called as temple of Bhagwan Atma ; on the other hand it is described as dead body, then what is right?

A: Body is dead body only, this is true; but while telling the glory of Bhagwan Atma, the Deva is also installed in Devalaya in Upachar sense and Deva is glorified.

648.  Q: With the dhyan of dravya paramanu and bhava paramanu Keval Gyan is attained. What does it mean?

A: Dravya Paramanu means atma dravya and bhava paramanu means Shuddha pure paryaya. With the dhyan of atma dravya Shuddha paryaya and Moksha are attained.

649. Q: Whether corporeal has experience?

A: Yes, the corporeal also gets experience. Manifesting in Utpad-Vyaya-Dhruva form only is called as experience of the corporeal.

650. Q: After listening to all the Pravachan it cannot be remembered, what to do for it?

A: If some person has abused you with sharp abuse then  is it  remembered? If that is remembered then why the gunas cannot be remembered? The reality is that he does not have real need for it, hence it gets forgotten; if real need is there then surely it would be remembered.

651. Q: How many diseases of human body are described in shastras?

A: In BhavaPahud Gatha 37 it is told that in the body of this human being, in one angul area there are 96 diseases. ( as per this the entire body would have 56899584 diseases.)

652. Q: You preach more of Samaysar instead of Pravachansar. What is the reason?

A:  In Pravachansar the description is with gyan as primary subject while in Samaysar the objective is to preach Drishti. In Samaysar the objective is to  make one to engage in Drishti upon  dravya relinquishing the Drishti from non-swabhava bhava form corruption which is generated with the aim  of pudgala. With that dravya Drishti only Samyak darshan and Moksha marg is initiated.

653. Q: Why the name of one of the constituents of Darshan Mohaniya is ‘Samyaktva Prakriti’?

A: Since with its fruition samyaktva also occurs, i.e. being coexistent with Samyaktva its name is called ‘Samyaktva Prakriti.’ Its fruition occurs along with Kshayopashamik Samyaktva.

654. Q: From aspect of numbers which is the highest infinity?

A: The avibhag praticcheda of Keval Gyan is the greatest infinity. With respect to the Pradesh of Alokakash etc. form other infinities, it is infinite times- in spite of saying so, its magnitude cannot be conceived. This is some unimaginable capability of soul dravya. Just as with vikalpa its shakti cannot be gauged, in the same way with mathematics also its capability cannot be imagined.

655. Q: The jiva of Bharat Kshetra after death, does he take birth in Videh Kshetra?

A: Yes. If he is MithyaDrishti then he can take birth in Videh. But worshiper person does not take birth in Manushya of Karma Bhoomi ( Videh etc. kshetras) – such is rule. Non believer jiva can take birth anywhere. If some person in Mithyatva state earlier has bonded with Manushya Ayu and later attained Samyaktva (Kshayik) then that worshiper jiva after death would take birth as Manushya but he would be Manushya in Bhog Bhoomi having ayu of innumerable years , and not karma Bhoomi , such is the rule. Videh Kshetra is also Karma Bhoomi. In Bhog Bhoomi there is no gunasthana higher than fourth and its jivas as a rule go to swarga only after death.

656. Q: In the body of Keval Gyani , do the Nigod Jivas exist?

A: No. The body of Keval Gyani is Param Audarik , hence with its recourse the Nigod jivas  do not exist. Although in lok the Nigod jivas are present everywhere including the same kshetra of akash, even then those jivas are not dependent upon  the Param Audarik body for support. The Param Audarik jiva of Kevali, the Aharak sharir of Muni, The Vaikriyik sharir of devas and Narakis, PrithviKaya , Apakaya, VayuKaya and AgniKaya – Nigod jivas do not exist dependent upon these bodies.

657.How can in  one Pradesh of Akash infinite paramanu and Pradesh of infinite jivas stay together ?

A: In one’s nature there is no limit of boundary; the nature is always without boundary and limits. Infinite paramanu stationary within lok, in sookshma form can occupy in one Pradesh of akash. Akash has such unlimited nature of providing accommodation . In one Pradesh of Akash such unlimited capability is there that infinite pudgalas and Pradesh of infinite jivas and dharmastikaya, adharmastikaya and one  Pradesh of kaal can be accommodated together.

The kshetra within which one paramanu can reside, the Pradesh of Akash has that much size. But it has unlimited capability of accommodating infinite . Look! The prime objective of telling all this is to tell the capability of the gyan paryaya of one samaya knowing all this.

The gyan paryaya of one samaya knows infinitely infinite substances along with their past and future paryayas . Oh! When the corporeal form one Pradesh of Akash can give space to infinite particles then what can be told about the capability of the gyayak nature of jiva knowing it. That is limitless, unmeasurable and infinite only. It is astonishing! Oh! This is for our own benefit, not for explaining to others. Understanding the capability of own gyan, absorbing in shraddha, one should immerse in self.

Shrimad raj Chadra ji says that “ the one who understood went within- did not stay to do external things.” Oh! The paryaya which realised the glory of such swabhava, that paryaya can not avoid entering within and meet Bhagwan Atma for sure.

658.  Q : One pudgala paramanu cannot have two divisions since its is extremely small, then how can it have infinite qualities?

A: One paramanu cannot have two divisions; in spite of being so small it has infinite qualities ( like that of jiva). Oh! Upon seeing and knowing such nature of things only omniscient has told this. Soul by itself is omniscient natured. One  paramanu and skandh of its infinite paramanus and maha skandh of such infinite skandhs – all these are known by soul having omniscient nature. True belief in such omniscient soul is required, since without shraddha-gyan being Samyak the entire tapa-tyag is cause for worldly wandering.

659. Q: Does one sookshma paramanu or sookshma skandh manifest in coarse form alone?

A: No. After joining with other coarse skandh only, it can manifest in coarse form. Just as the eternal agyani jiva with the nimitta of gyani only becomes gyani ; in the same way with the nimitta of coarse skandh , other sookshma skandh or paramanu can manifest in coarse form. This is eternal law.

660. Q: Whether one paramanu can be observed by eye or microscope etc.?

A: No. This is not subject of the gyan related to five senses. With awadhigyan the paramanu can be known but outside awadhigyan it cannot be known by some means. Awadhigyan also does not know by eye ; and capability of knowing paramanu is possible to sookshma awadhigyani only. Agyani does not have such awadhigyan. It is a rule that the one who knows singular form param atma , he only can know paramanu.

661.Q:  In your samaysar the subject of adhyatma is very intricate. We are pilgrims, hence please  tell us some simple thing.

A: We observe all as Bhagwan. Inside ever blissful Prabhu trikaali Chaitanya Bhagwan is existent, with recourse to him dharma is attained. Leaving the vikalpa and aim of others, taking recourse to the real natured Bhagwan within self only is suitable deed.

662. Q: At present no keval gyani is seen hence it does not establish keval gyan?

A:  Keval gyan is not unestablished- this is told in Kashya Prabhrit-Jayadhavala book 1, page 44. Since by own direct experience the gyan which is part of kevalgyan, is attained in unobscured manner. In other words the Matigyan etc. are parts of keval gyan and their attainment is by own direct experience to everyone, hence the segments part of keval gyan are explicit and with the segments being explicit the owner (keval gyan) cannot be called as indirect.

663. What is  Anekant and what is Jain Shasan and its arrangement?

A: Illumination  of two mutually opposite shaktis indicating the nature of thing in a substance is Anekant. The thing which is Nitya, same is Anitya ; what is one , is many, - in this way the one which illuminates , that is the secret of Jain Shasan. In other words, the one which described the sovereignty as undifferentiated dravya form is Nishchaya and the one which described the same sovereignty as differentiated  qualities form, that is Vyavahara – this is Anekant. In Anekant it is the speciality that in the substance there are two opposing shaktis. The substance by itself is Nitya and Anitya. This paryaya of gyan has been generated fresh after listening to word, it is not due to word , but on its own. The paryaya of gyan keeps changing into new every time, it is not produced by studies of shastras , but by itself. The illumination of  two opposing capabilities of Nitya and Anitya dharma form by itself is called as Anekant in Jain Sahsan . In one tattva there is absence of second Tattva. The tattva is by itself and not by others- this is Anekant- Jain shasan. The arrangement of the substance is organised by itself – this only is the arrangement of Jain shasan.

664.  Q: Does Keval Gyanavarani obscures the keval gyan of Abhavya jiva?

A: Yes. Even for Abhavya the Keval gyan is there from aspect of shakti i.e. he also has capability of having keval gyan , hence the obscuration due to Keval Gyanavarana is there.

665. Q: Pravachan we have been listening for years. Now please tell a simple path for entering within. The life is short.

A: Atma is gyan swabhava , mass of consciousness, undifferentiated; direct Drishti upon it. By directing Drishti upon differentiation, raga is generated in the ragi jiva, hence giving up the aim of differentiation direct Drishti upon undifferentiated- this is the brief essence.

666. Q: What is the mistake committed by the one who believes raga to be means for sukh?

A: The one who believed raga to be means for sukh, in his belief this was established that where raga is not there, the sukh would also not be there. Without raga the veetrag sukh beyond senses exist- this thing never appeared in his shraddha and where there is no shraddha for sukh beyond senses, there how can means for it also be there? Even one vikalpa of raga, the jiva who considers as means for sukh or gyan , that jiva believes sukh in sensory subjects only and does not believe the swayambhoo sukh nature of soul.

667. Q: All this comes into knowledge, but even then the soul does not get to be known?

A: All this is being known, who is the knower? The sovereignty in which it is being known, its knower does not get to be known – this is the delusion. This body, house, wealth, wife-son etc. are being known, who  does know them? All this is being known, it is being known in the sovereignty of the knower.  The knower is not being known , nor accepted- this delusion only is the cause for wandering in the 84 yonis. The body etc. are different from this knower; the knower remaining within his own sovereignty knows . Once he knows and accepts this knower then the rebirth wandering can be prevented.

669. Q: What is the world of agyani purush and what is the world of scholar with zero atma gyan ?

A: The person who is agyani, i.e he does not know good or bad in real manner, his world is wife,  children etc. But who is  scholar, who has studied the shastras very elaborately and remembers several gathas, shlokas etc., but is zero with atma gyan , his world is shastra.

670. Q: What is Anantanubandhi greed?

A: The real satisfaction is to reveal own swabhava paryaya of Samyak darshan etc. – not believing this the agyani jiva believes satisfaction in coming from  ashubha to Shubha , i.e. satisfied with Shubha raga he gets tied up there. Such jiva has really greed of raga only and the same is called Anantanubandhi greed.

671. In Gyan of Mithya Drishti the dravya swabhava is not felt, then does he have absence of dravya?

A: Mithya Drishti does not feel the dravya, therefore in his gyan the dravya is absence form. To Gyani even the dravya of others is felt , hence the dravya of agyani is seen by gyani as Bhagwan form. But the agyani does not see the dravya , hence in his Drishti the dravya is absence form only.

672.  Q: Does  Agyani jiva have shraddha in Moksha?

A: Agyani does not have shraddha of Moksha , since he does not know the Shuddha gyan form atma ; hence he does not have shraddha of moksha also. Without Shraddha of Moksha, whatever number of shastras he may study  even then benefit of soul cannot be attained – Samyak gyan cannot be attained. The purpose of shastras is to indicate the Shuddha gyan form soul and instigate one to make efforts for Moksha, but those who do not have shraddha of Moksha , to him how can the study of shastras be beneficial? In spite of reading 11 Angs the abhavya remains agyani.

673. Q: With logic and argument this thing is acceptable but why the confidence of entering within is not there?

A: Whatever amount of Purushartha is required for entering within is not realised, hence keeps wandering outside. The interest of entering within is not there therefore the upayoga does not go within.

674.  Q: The swabhava of gyan is to know only, then why does he not know himself?

A: Gyan knows himself; his nature is to know himself; but the Drishti of agyani is upon others, hence he does not know self , the others are given weightage i.e. by giving importance to others, he does not know himself. The weightage is given to others, hence he does not know self. 

                                                                        The End

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